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's part of the problem. if you have any concern about the environment, if if you have any concern about climate change, are you going to look to someone that's a party that's saying things like that? that's not offering any solutions and i think that's part of the problem. cap and trade, which has been thoroughly demonized, that was a conservative idea. that's a market-based approach to dealing with climate change. democrats have adopted some of these goods, market-based things that they used to do. if they are going to be an effective party and opposition, they have to offer nuance responses. it's worked for them a while but now that well has run dry, so to speak. >> and i think joan made a very good point. usually they take an autopsy after you've been pronounced dead. they don't usually take 5 autopsies while you're still alive. >> that's not a good sign. >> they need a political resurrection, not change. >> that's right. >> thank you for your time. check "the cycle" at 3:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. >>> ahead, hey, republicans, if you do unpopular things, you become unpopula
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